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. At completion praise lavishly and reward.With a treat or toy, face the dog and place it above his head and slightly behind the forehead, but still visible. - Believe that the dog can associate consequences across time and conditions, then draw the same conclusion you would.Dog Training - Sit Command - Few behaviors are as fundamentally important as 'sit'. It also leads to behaviors like 'rollover' and 'crawl'. Now bring out other techniques. But a nearly equal number will underestimate the time, skill and elbow grease it takes to do it as it needs to be done - Especially if they are a new dog owner and have bought a high energy breed when they should have gone for a lower energy submissive type. To start take advantage of spontaneous behavior.At first the dog will have no idea why it's being praised but it doesn't matter as with repetition the behavior will follow the command. Beyond the need to establish that you are the alpha (leader), it has a number of benefits. Try to be away from other voices. Praise the dog lavishly. Many dogs take two years to learn anything beyond the easiest basics to the point that it consistently sticks.Patience is the number one required quality, therefore. Don't be harsh, but don't give up easily either. Some will get it fast, some will take ten or more or won't get it without further prompting. The goal is to encourage, not punish. When you see it give a unique voice command and hand gesture pair.When a dog sits he's more attentive, making it easier to follow commands. Most times, they are not ignoring the command as much as failing to understand it. So, the dog hasn't evolved to understand why you're hitting them. Praise and reward anyway, even though you had to 'force' the sit.Make the hand gesture, issue the voice command and move a treat or toy from the dog's chin to the ground while pulling gently on the leash.In really hard cases, kneel nd put the leash loop under one foot and slide it under the knee of the opposite leg, facing at a slight angle to the dog.To command sit, stand and face the dog

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Agree "VERY Poorly Written"

I beleive some of the history to be a bit in accurate as to what "composes" a true pit bull. It is clear that the contents of this article are clearly one sided. It is as if the "scientific" evidence provided was selected from pro pit bull publications. The actual stats show something much different. There is also a long laundry list of psycological evidence showing not just the instability of these dogs, but the instability of the people that choose to own them if you care to look it up.


That's not true. Pit bulls were bred to fight wre peole would make bets on the dogs. They were bred for aggression with dogs, but extreme tolerance with people. I'd like to see your 'proof' of the breed's instability. And as a pit bull owner, I'm far more stable than most dog owners out there. We pit bull owners are very stable. We have to be, taking baseless insults from uneducated people.

Quite simply, you take the dogs with a strong aggression towards other animals and you breed them together. The pit bull today does indeed have inherited aggression towards animals. They distinguish between animals and humans, as was intended when they were bred. They see their own species as something to attack and kill, while humans are something they see as leaders and friends.


Im gonna write here kuz i dot kno how 2 make a new discussion thing, i would like to mention that retreivers hae a higher biting rate in canada compared 2 pitbulls, they dont bite often, but when they do bike, they dont let go, so ye

VERY Poorly Written!

Aside from the fact that this article is biased, it is very poorly written. Can we get some adult supervision here?

Introduction

I work with animals. I have a lot of experience with bulls. I changed the intro to a very mild section on pit bulls as pets. It needs to be worked on, but it's a start. There are few statisitics avalible, so I simply put what I could. Please find sources, we need to find sources to show the fact that bulls are common owner surrenders and commonly euthanized.

ReignMan 16:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

The reference to unrelated breeds such as Presa Canatios and Dogo Argentinos is both irrelevant and confusing. And the Molosser reference is controversial and useless. I edited the introduction to remove these statements and it reverted back for some reason. Pitbullet 20:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


Neutrality/NPOV issues

While I agree that pit bulls get negative press and wholly support education on the positive aspects of this breed, I don't think that this article is unbiased enough to be quoted as "fact" to those doing research to benefit pit bull owners. The article appears to spend too much time pointing out the debate and the positive aspects, that encyclopedia based facts are lacking.

A proper history, that includes the true negative nature of the dog's breeding, statistics on temperment v/s other dogs, bite/fatality statistics (available from the CDC), and only external links to the debate would help clean up this article and provide a more neutral point of view. Possibly even creating a second article devoted to the legislative ban of dog breeds would help. Reducing the information provided may also be the answer, because the simpler the statement, the closer it is to the truth.

Youdontsmellbad 08:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Dog bite and fatality statistiics are inherently going to be skewed when you take the fact that many breeds that are not remotely related to pit bulls are called that in the media and by proponents of BSL. Presa Canario is one the furthest breeds from a pit bull yeat it is constantly called one whenever they attack someone. As for breed determination in bite statistics it is almost completely left up to the victim. How many people that don't own a pitbull could identify one correctly? most people just think that any wide chest dog with a large head is a pit bull and dont properly undersatand the breed to begin with.


The "Safety, Legal Issues and Controversy" section is particularly awful. A sampling of the problems:

Although often cited, CDC statistics are completely inaccurate and skewed, and would not be considered as a scientific statistical survey in court due to the fact that the breeds of nearly 89-90 dogs in the study were not known.

According to who, the wikipedia editor? This needs a source.

The CDC has *admitted* this flaw, and has cautioned against reliance on the study.

Again, a source is needed.

Unfortunately, others studies used the CDC study as a basis for their own studies, so that only adds insult to injury.

Unencylopedic writing & unsourced. Which studies?

Mixed breed dogs may or may not display specific physical breed characteristics, and assertions on determing the dog's breed are usually limited to visual observations by laypersons.

Weasel words & unsourced.

While some people contend that pit bulls are likely to cause fatalities when they do attack, claiming it might be their jaws or clamping on to a victim, it needs to be known that this is a theory, and it is not a scientific one, nor has it been shown to be true in any verified study.

A non-scientific theory? Why even use the word "theory" then? What qualifies as a "verified" study?

What is undisputed is that ANY untrained, unsocialized dog can be dangerous, particularly when the dog is large in size, but even small dogs can kill. A Labrador dog actually severed the head of a female child, and a doxie dog chewed off the legs of a baby

Pedantic, unencyclopedic, unsourced, and anecdotal.

What the average layperson doesn't know, is that PETA has actually killed 90% of the pets they took in last year (2005) while holding themselves out as animal "savers"............

Terrible writing, unsourced, POV.

There are more examples, but I'm getting tired of quoting. This section needs a complete rewrite. Scott5834 19:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I concur on the point Scott5834 makes. This is one of the most laughably biased articles I've seen on Wikipedia, and I've been coming here for almost two years now. The sections "Pits as Pets," "Legal Issues in the US," and "Urban Myths" are the worst offenders in this article. "Pits as Pets" does nothing to explain the issues of having a pit bull as a pet and instead is a poorly written tirade on "irresponsible" dog owners. If such a section is to exist, it should talk about the traits of pit bulls, their preferences, and requirements for owning. "Legal Issues" has virtually zero citations. It speaks at length about a "flawed" CDC study, but presents no evidence of this or the questioned study. Finally, "Urban Myths" could be condensed significantly. The section spends a lot of time accusing other dog breeds of similar behaviors and giving examples. Is this relevant to this article? In general, this section smacks of petulant, defensive attitude. 24.22.8.250 01:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh my gosh! I thought I had seen biased and POV editing in articles on Israel and the War on Terror, etc, but this is by a long way the most partial article I have ever read on Wiki - and I've been reading for many years. This article reads like it has been prepared by the Pit Bull appreciation society for the use of the Pit Bull breeders annual convention. Large amounts of this need removing as unencyclopedic and polemic. I suggest that if there are editors with time here, note is taken of whichever editors are adding all this nonsense, so that they can be reminded here and on their own talk pages that they are doing noone a favour by putting such biased material on Wikipedia. Fig 12:14, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

The "Pits as Pets" paragraph could simply state facts, e.g. whether it is a recognised breed by the major Kennel Clubs - American, United, KCGB, etc. and any available statistics for pet ownership.

There are certainly doubts as to whether this type of dog makes a suitable pet and it needs to be acknowledged that ownership of pit bulls as pets is regarded as controversial in both the UK and the US. The introduction to this section is irrelevant and the quotation footnoted as 1 appears to be from a breed club site and therefore, although a source, not unbiased in itself, and quite apart from anything else, refers to the American Staffordshire not the American Pit Bull Terrier; it does not specify the "talents" of the dog either! Vandenwyngaerde 00:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Removed how to avoid attack paragraph in Overview

because it is original research. Frankly, following anonymous advice on defusing a dangerous situation is foolish as well. The paragraph should not be reinserted without a source, ideally one from an expert dog handler. hateless 20:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Overview deleted

In attempt to stabalize the neutrality of the article, I have deleted the poor overview. I don't know much about the dog, so I would rather leave it up to someone who is willing to write an overview that is neither supportive or rejective of the dog breed. The problem with the overview was... basicly.. it was too oppinionated.

Cleanup attempt

I took a first pass at cleaning up the article. While I can't say I'm 100% neutral in this debate as an owner of a bully

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